Release Date : May - 2024
If another effect causes one of the returned permanents to become a creature and sets its power and toughness as it does so, that creature will have that power and toughness
Look for cards that reward you for casting a bunch of artifacts like Sai, Master Thopterist and Vedalken Archmage to complete the puzzle
The benefit for casting those higher-costed creatures is arguably greater, though, as Helga draws a card, gains a life, and gets a +1/+1 counter for each of these creatures cast
(10/2/2025) If an artifact or creature you control has a mana ability with in the cost, activating that ability while casting a spell or activating an ability with waterbend will result in the artifact or creature being tapped before you pay the spell's costs
So if Geralfs Messenger has returned from the graveyard with a counter, if you put a -1/-1 counter on it it will have no counters at all